Can You Really Run Your Car on Water?

yes it works I have converted my 91 g20 and it runs great and saves me money everytime i drive it see for your self http://saveonall.info/

YULE BROWN & the GM Monaro conversion, 1977

IN 1977 or thereabouts, Bulgarian Australian inventor, Yule Brown was covered in a press article in a Sydney suburb, with a recent GM Holden Monaro coupe – a solid 6 cylinder sports car after the American manner. HE claimed to have converted it to electrlyse water into HHO for ignition in the conventional GM 6 piston engine. Australian Parliament’s Hansards record shows that he was said to have driven 4,000 – from Sydney to Perth and back – on one tank of water.

It is time this matter was settled absolutely, for if it proves feasible, it will eliminate 50% of the fuel emission problem and leave us with conventially-sized vehicles which have become the conveyor of civilization.

Australia is a clear example of a nation which cannot now survive without economical private vehicles. I am keen to encourage the Minister for the Environment to foster research into a conversion for all conventional engines.

Had Yule Brown succeeded, the water shortage we have now may not have been a problem. But the time is now right, with the evanescance of petroleum. As it is, a successful HHO conversion may need to be restricted to SEA WATER, owing to the environmental reality: that as the air warms, the rainwater in the rivers is less and less; but the poles melt, and as the poles melt, the seas rise. So… use of sea water seems essential.

-Bluey Quilty,
HHO conversion Campaigner
Australia

I’ve heard this method works with the older carburetor engines.

Modern cars with fuel injection engines have a manifold absolute pressure [MAP] sensor which works with the ECU (electronic control unit) of the car to supply the correct amount of fuel. Adding HHO mixture will throw the computer off and force it to overcompensate with more fuel.

If you want to fit a fuel injection engine with a Browns gas electrolyzer, you will also have to build a MAP converter. It’s a bit more involved for the average person to do alone.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ze_w0i3xZmAC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=modify+map+sensor+engine&source=web&ots=mZWA8hWthU&sig=uzs_lM75XXQBXh5LbtPObkanKuQ&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA83,M1

Consider the following :

1. Water electrolysis uses electric energy.
2. Electric energy must first be produced by the car engines alternator, which has an overall efficiency of about 30% at best, compared to the energy content of gas.
3. The efficiency of electrolysis itself ist at best by about 60 – 70 %
4. So, the total efficiency is about 20%, much less than the efficiency of the combustion process in the engine.
5. Since it is impossibel to produce more energy by burning the HHO than it was needed to produce the HHO, the additional heat energy in the combustion chamber of an internal combustion engine can not even compensate for the additional energy neededd to produce the HHO.

Assume it all works and we use OCEAN water to produce energy for cars, boats, and homes for many billions of people world wide. RESULTS: Massive increase of water vapor worldwide 24/7 (clouds = total overcast and increased massive amounts of rain thus a cooler surface on earth = snow = ice age). Also, ocean levels will drop as water is moved from them and into the atmosphere as water vapor. If you have to desalinate the ocean water first then it takes even more energy thus pollution for this conversion process AND the salinity of the oceans is increased thus having an adverse effect on all ocean plants and life therein. It is a nice idea but ALL solutions create NEW problems so count the cost of any solution first and solve the new problems it creates BEFORE you create another worldwide disaster. Even a wind generator changes weather conditions as it absorbs the wind energy, large hot concrete cities create dryer conditions to their east etc… A few of anything may not be enough to make a noticeable change but many of anything often has the ability or effect of devastating even an entire planet and in a very short period of time.
Thats my 2 cents adn I am sticking to it…

OOOps, I should have offered a better solution VS just highlighting the problem so here it is: BTW the water conversion system uses electricity to convert the water which means a larger alternator on your car which burns more gas to power and lost efficiency at every step so just storing and using the electricity is more efficient. Also, driving better and a clean air filter with a tuned up car can increase millage by 30% alone, add a more aerodynamic car VS a box like car in the mix and get 50% more MPG. Anyway, the solution that I came up with about 15 yrs ago and contacted Scripps Institute about (gave them the information for free): In brief: take a large plastic soda bottle and cut the bottom off. Take off the cap and place it right side up into a pail of water. Move it up and down and you will create compressed air on the down stroke and do not discount the vacuumed on the up stroke. Now envision an upside funnel or even roof top upside down V shaped structures in the ocean’s surf line. Now you can create compressed air, a safe storable energy, with ocean surf. Use it to pump ocean water uphill into a man made lake (storage unit) and when released back into the ocean through a hydro electric dam you will generate electricity whenever you want it. Also, some new cars run on compressed air engines,,, check that one out. Remember that about 80% of the worlds population live near water like the oceans. The only real reactive result is that beach erosion will be reduced as some of the damaging energy is taken out of the surf waves before they hit the beaches. Do you have any idea how much energy is in just one small ocean or lake wave? Ocean surf is more constant than solar or wind energy systems and can even be increased with proper underwater structures (grading or rock walls etc…). So there is a solution that creates no real new problems, is totally non polluting except for the pollution generated in fabricating the facilities AND keeps the environment intact better than any other so called renewable energy. Even solar panels create a lot of pollution and take a lot of energy to create. Some panels give back less energy than they take to create when all factors are considered. There it is and for free to all. Do research compressed air engines and cars. I may not be the smartest cookie in the box but I am very good at the one thing I can do well, my one talent

This is more a question than a comment or even useful experience. Making an assumption that what is said is true and given how long the information has been available, why hasn’t this “trick” been made known and actually used by the vast majority of the driving public? It would seem to me that folks would be driving their new cars off the lot, go home and immediately install one these devices. Is there a reasonable answer to this question?

The answer for Dave is simple and comes as a quote from Yull Brown “Everyone wins, except the greedy energy tycoons” says Yull, “Right now they are waisting big dollars on Gasoline manufacturing. They have refused to listen to my invention-because money gets in the way”. There are lots of ‘Free Energy’ devices that have been made from my Browns Gas”
Simply put the technology has been with held so oil companies and car makers can extract huge profits from us the consumer.
Yull Brown was actually taking credit for discoveries made by Michael Faraday, 1791-1867 who was an Engish Chemist and physicst who contributed to the fields of electromagnetism and electrochemistry. Michael Faraday inventor of the electric motor and the faraday principle used lately by those shake to charge flashlights. Faraday also discovered the laws of electrolysis and popularised terminology such as anode, cathode, electrode, and ion. Yull Brown simply found a contemporary use for Faradays HHO gas discovery.

For Hugo and Mark the energy used to produce electrolysis is only 1.5 volts per cell which is very little drain on the electical system. The average alternator produces around 14-15 volts to recharge the battery form starting the car. Once the battery is recharged the car itself is only using about 8-9 volts for computers, radio,fans and continuing the engines ignition system. So there is a surplus of electrcity of aproximately 6-7 volts so you could have a 4 cell electrolyser system running without taxing the elctrical system at all. Also the gas produced is HHO or brown gas which burns hotter then gasoline and has greater explosive force which increases the combustion of gasoline in the cylinder therefore increasing power and reducing emisions buy consuming the unburned gas that would normaly be released into the enviornment by the exhaust system.

If the water is turned to gas (HHO) and then back to water (H2O) as I have heard it does, how does this affect the internal engine parts.

What is the worst case scenario or downside of this “run car on water” technology/invention/process?

To the author: I was just doing some online research about this very topic and found systems for just a few hundred dollars called a Hydro Super 2. I was astonished to find many websites, blogs, Youtube, and online forums for this topic and when I visited the website for the Hydro Super 2 they directed me to resellers and some of them actually are partnering with mechanics to perform installations. I am betting that you have not actually seen one of these systems in action. I encourage you to take a closer look. I have been learning a lot and have started to experiment with the best known methods of creating and using HHO. In the quest for information I have seen many versions of this technology and although some maybe primitive and not suitable for the long haul, the principles seem very sound. I have yet to see a single article, experiment, or demonstration with this equipment that will disprove the process of making or using HHO. Seems funny that most would either except or reject with no real basis in fact. Check it out and let me know if you find the same thing.

this is for mark gray:

not tryin to be a but or anything but ocean water would be best for the process because it takes a electrolizer like SALT for the electrol. to take place. Alot of people are using baking soda and drain openers that contain the electrolizer. Salt acts like a electrolizer. The us navy uses sea water to get the o2 for the subs to stay under for weeks at a time. in which the process is electrolosis from sea water and nothing added to it. also steam quickly convertes back to water due to the atmospheric temp not being high enough to keep the steam in a steam state.

Can we run our car with water and gas?
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam?

I read that Popular Mechanics is going to do a test on this. GREAT! I know we all don’t like having to pay so much money for fuel, but I hope that doesn’t make us vulnerable for frauds. It’s amazing the old clips of newstories of almost energy-less systems and perpetual motion machines. Don’t let that be us!

Hi Emilya,

i use water to fuel a car as a supplement to gasoline. In fact,
very little water is needed, only one quart of water provides over 1800
gallons of HHO gas which can literally last for months and significantly
increase your car fuel efficiently, improve emissions quality, and save
money.I found the way through this site http://www.runcarsonwater.us
i really recommend it to everybody, it’s a nice ebook where you can find
the instructions on how to do it! take a look

Folks. This is a huge scam. Despite the pseudoscience in some posts above and the “big oil cartels”, if this worked (it doesn’t), with so many thousands of people pushing this on the web, it would be widespread. Your mileage will do down. This is the ultimate “free lunch” which purports to productize the perpetual motion machine.

Making sure your tire pressure is perfect, driving 3 mph slower and just driving easier will save you many many times the cost of implementing this scam.

Emilya, think about it, 1 quart of water, over many a few months intermixed with what, 300+ gallons of gas over that time, it’s a scam. Take the $100 you might spend on this and take your husband to a nice dinner.

TripleII

Ive been reading a lot on doing conversions but i think that a Ebook i found gave more useful and practical advice on this matter. With out ay adjustment or capitol outlays on engine mods. Check it out,
http://www.carneview.com

Hi
I did manage to see about 10-12 of these car’s in action…turned on and running at 6242 Woodley Ave, CA (between Burbank Ave and Victory Blvd…Woodley Park) where every Saturday cars running with HHO kits are displayed and demonstrated.

You can also get a mechanic to do an installation (though these installations are not done at the park)….most drivers admitted to a substantial increase ranging from 15% to 40%…..I also saw one car where the driver said that after the initial fuel efficiency increase it went back to the way it was (though he hadn’t installed any O2 extenders or MAP overrides).

The only way for me to know this really works is to have one installed and drive it and see how it works for me…as for the kit’s they are fairly easy to make and install…the only challenge is in getting the MAP sensor overrides or the O2 extenders installed which require a bit more technical knowhow….

Furthermore at this park I also saw several additional devices(add-ons) which some mechanic’s there informed me weren’t required…Overall I saw some really simple easy and very practical kits installed and functioning in cars….

Car’s ranged from V4’s to V8’s….older car’s and almost brand new cars…cheap to expensive….As far I can tell It really works though I cannot say for certain that you do get a substantial increase in fuel efficiency…

Then Again this observation was only over a period of say about 2 hours….The only way for anyone to definitely know for a fact and know more is to go to this park and check these cars out and maybe to get these installed….I hope this information was helpful

I do plan to do get this installed in my car soon and when I do I will update with more information….

GoodLuck
Zee – Las Vegas,NV

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Snake oil……the whole thing reeks of it. Wouldn’t be surprised if the peddlers of the product claim they can fix baldness and faded paint at the same time…..”Just rub it in, but wait there’s more free knives and a emergency flare if you order today…don’t let this opportunity pass….bla bla bla!”

Give me some proof….and not that guy/gal that gets paid to say “works for me!!!!”.

Guys, believe it or not; it does work on my 1992 bmer 7 series and I got 33% increase in mileage, engine runs a lot more smoother and quieter. I’ve been experimenting on my car for a month and seems like the engine is getting healthier.

You are sceptical just like me, but I tested it out. Man, it’s unbelievable. I don’t want to get into any argument and I do appreciate all the questions raised and those are very good questions/doubts indeed. The fact is, only those who tried it out could tell you the benefits of hydrofuel.

Cheers!

Perhaps nothing concerning the topic is more interesting than the people who say hydrogen converters won’t work (and all the rest). Friends and I built one of these in 1972 (when all the gas stations were closed). I installed mine on a Chevrolet Monza V-8, with the result that when I had tinkered with it during a trip it went from 16 mpg to 24 (or so – it’s been a long time). I got distracted by business then, but my step-daughter drove the car for years without trouble.

A friend of mine at the time also installed this set-up on local police cars with the result that they more than doubled their mileage. It happpens that I’m in the process of doing it all again, delayed by some components I’ve ordered and haven’t arrived.

An airline captain friend of mine tells me that a scientist friend of his says hydrogen will damage the engine of a car (something like the idea’s detractors here, I guess). I’m not a chemist, but I can do the molecular and ionic formulas, and I can’t imagine how that could be.

Would anyone care to explain how hydrogen might damage an automobile engine? Technically, please – the chemistry.

I made one and useing it. My 97 mercury it does work I am getting 50% more miles out of my car on the highway.

Warm Greetings to all,

Just wanted to say that HHO is not a fuel energy source. It’s more of an fuel modifying additive when introduced in an on-demand application for vehicles. I’ve done extensive information research and installed several units now. In a nutshell, your carburetor and fuel injectors break up gasoline into tiny droplets that comprise a fine mist with a particular air/fuel ratio that’s fed into your engine cylinders. The larger droplets typically ignite but don’t burn completely because the gasoline in their interior is not exposed to oxygen (no oxygen, no combustion). With enough time the reaction would reach the interior and consume the entire droplet. But typically, flame initiation and propagation is a surface, droplet to droplet phenomena and modern internal combustion engines are designed and timed to draw energy from flame front propagation. In other words engines don’t wait for the entire droplet to “cook”. This means the fuel on the interior of the droplet is simply wasted as part of the exhaust.

HHO Effects -
When HHO is introduced into your cylinder, it does several things. First, when ignited, it continues the droplet break-up process by crushing and further fragmenting larger fuel droplets. This exposes more fuel surface area to oxygen. The added fuel surface area effectively changes the air/fuel ratio (makes it richer) because more (fragmented) fuel is now available for combustion. Simultaneously, HHO ignites all the fuel quickly. Since it has a very high combustion velocity (CV) and it is more or less evenly dispersed throughout the cylinder, the previous (relatively slow) droplet to droplet flame propagation process effectively disappears and HHO forces all the fuel to ignite virtually at once (yes it’s that fast and violent). It acts very similarly to an explosive primer charge. This means more fuel burns in a shorter amount of time, delivering more kinetic energy to each piston. The bottom line is HHO does it’s job by modifying your car’s fuel, rather than acting as car fuel. As long as there are over-sized droplets for it to act on, additional amounts of HHO will be beneficial. And yes, there are timing implications.

Higher concentrations of HHO cool engine operation because after combustion HHO contracts dramatically thereby immediately driving cylinder and exhaust gas temperatures downward. That’s why there are no reports of molten pistons or vaporized heads. It’s a pretty interesting set of physical interactions.

So, no, your car does not run on water. It doesn’t even run on HHO.

The droplet fragmentation phenomena and its effects have been pretty well known and studied for years by researchers in Canada and the JPL (Jet Propulsion Lab) here in the states and all over the world. I’m a little surprised by the confusion because the information is freely available and fully documented. In fact, as soon as I get time I’ll scan the hardcopy extracts I have to my site for viewing.

Full disclosure: I do recommend some plans that I’ve reviewed and or used.

http://www.TheDiscerningDollar.com/cutyourgasbill

Meanwhile, here is some research info. you can find online:

In 1995, Wagner, Jamal and Wyszynski, at the Birmingham, of University Engineering, Mechanical and Manufacturing>, demonstrated the advantages of “Fractional addition of hydrogen to internal combustion engines by exhaust gas fuel reforming.” The process yielded benefits in improved combustion stability and reduced nitrogen oxides and hydrocarbon emissions. Roy MacAlister, PE of the American Hydrogen Association states the “Use of mixtures of hydrogen in small quantities and conventional fuels offers significant reductions in exhaust emissions” and that “Using hydrogen as a combustion stimulant it is possible for other fuels to meet future requirements for lower exhaust emissions in California and an increasing number of additional states. Relatively small amounts of hydrogen can dramatically increase horsepower and reduce exhaust emissions.”

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A study by the California Institute of Technology, at its Jet Propulsion Lab Pasadena, in 1974 concluded: The J.P.L. concept has unquestionably demonstrated that the addition of small quantities of gaseous hydrogen to the primary gasoline significantly reduces CO and NOx exhaust emissions while improving engine thermal efficiency A recent study at the University of Calgary by G.A. Karim on the effect of adding hydrogen to a methane-fuelled engine says … The addition of some hydrogen to the methane, speeds up the rates of initiation and subsequent propagation of flames over the whole combustible mixture range, including for very fast flowing mixtures. This enhancement of flame initiation and subsequent flame propagation, reduces the Ignition delay and combustion period in both spark ignition and compression ignition engines which should lead to noticeable improvements in the combustion process and performance What happens inside the combustion chamber is still only a guess. In an earlier explanation I suggested that the extremely rapid flame speed of the added hydrogen oxygen interspersed through the main fuel air mix, gives the whole mix a much faster flame rate. Dr. Brant Peppley, Hydrogen Systems Group, Royal Military College, Kingston, has convinced me that insufficient hydrogen is produced to have much effect by just burning it. He feel’s that the faster burn is most likely due to the presence of nascent (atomic) hydrogen and nascent oxygen, which initiate a chain reaction. I now completely agree. Electrolysis produces “nascent” hydrogen, and oxygen, which may or may not reach the engine as nascent. It is more probable that high temperature in the combustion chamber breaks down the oxygen and hydrogen molecules into free radicals (i.e. nascent). The chain reaction initiated by those free radicals will cause a simultaneous ignition of all the primary fuel. As it all ignites at once, no flame front can exist and without it there is no pressure wave to create knock The results of tests at Corrections Canada’s, Bowden Alberta Institution and other independent tests reinforce the belief that combustion is significantly accelerated. They found with the HGS on, unburned hydrocarbons, CO and NO, in the exhaust were either eliminated or drastically reduced and at the same R.P.M. the engine produced more torque from less fuel. Recently I took part in the highway test of a vehicle driven twice over the same 200-kilometre course, on cruise control, at the same speed, once with the system off and once with it on. A temperature sensor from an accurate pyrometer kit had been inserted directly into the exhaust manifold, to eliminate thermal distortion from the catalytic converter. On average, the exhaust manifold temperature was 65°F lower during the second trip when the Hydrogen Generating System was switched on. The fuel consumption with the unit off was 5.13253 km/li. and 7.2481 km/li. with it on, giving a mileage increase of 41.2% and a fuel savings attributable to the unit of 29.18% From the forgoing, the near absence of carbon monoxide and unburnt hydrocarbons confirms a very complete and much faster burn. Cooler exhaust temperatures show that more work is taken out during the power stroke. More torque from less fuel at the same R.P.M. verifies that higher pressure from a faster burn, acting through a longer effective power stroke, produces more torque and thus more work from less fuel. The considerable reduction in nitrous oxides (NOx} was a surprise. I had assumed that the extreme temperatures from such a rapid intense burn would produce more NO.,. Time plus high temperature are both essential for nitrous oxides to form. As the extreme burn temperatures are of such short duration and temperature through the remainder of the power stroke and the entire exhaust stroke, will, on average, be much cooler. With this in mind, it is not so surprising that less NOx is produced when the HGS is operating.

Hello again…

Haven’t quite decided how to integrate the information mentioned above on my website, but decided that’s no reason for you guys to have to wait until I figure things out. Here are some links that should be of interest:

Sort of a survey of hydrogen fuel technologies (including fractional injection)–
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/facts-research/research-technology/report/Guidelines-H2-Fuel-in-CMVs-Nov2007.pdf

1977 NASA Study -
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19770016170_1977016170.pdf

Here’s a basic study chronology -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fuel_enhancement#Research
Here’s more info. on what other organizations are doing with hydrogen:

General reading on the subject for those who are interested:

Application of Hydrogen Assisted Lean Operation to Natural Gas-Fueled Reciprocating Engines (HALO)
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=1&osti_id=885936

Advanced Vehicle Testing Activity: Hydrogen-Fueled Mercedes Sprinter Van Operating Summary – January 2003
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=1&page=0&osti_id=809115

Advanced Vehicle Testing Activity: High-Percentage Hydrogen/CNG Blend, Ford F-150 — Operating Summary
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=1&page=0&osti_id=911419

Advanced Vehicle Testing Activity: Low-Percentage Hydrogen/CNG Blend, Ford F-150 — Operating Summary
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=1&page=0&osti_id=911420

Advanced Vehicle Testing Activity: Dodge Ram Wagon Van – Hydrogen/CNG Operations Summary – January 2003
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=1&page=0&osti_id=809099

Optimized hydrogen piston engines
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=11&osti_id=10196602

Fuel-cycle energy and emissions impacts of tripled fuel economy vehicles
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=16&osti_id=563807

Solar powered hydrogen generating facility and hydrogen powered vehicle fleet. Final technical report, August 11, 1994–January 6, 1997
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=18&osti_id=607487

SunLine Transit Agency, Hydrogen Powered Transit Buses: Preliminary Evaluation Results
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=18&osti_id=899297

Numerical modeling of hydrogen-fueled internal combustion engines
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=1&page=0&osti_id=266624

Hydrogen-air mixing evaluation in reciprocating engines
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=1&page=0&osti_id=10156770

Technology status of hydrogen road vehicles. IEA technical report from the IEA Agreement of the production and utilization of hydrogen
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=1&page=0&osti_id=776256

I’ve noticed that discussion has virtually disappeared. I hope that wasn’t due to my postings. Didn’t mean to be a budynski you guys. Just thought some solid info might help clarify things a bit. Please continue.

Pano

Heres a idea for anyone wishing to save fuel and increase your mpg.
Scrap your fuel thirsty state side made tank of a car and purchase a enviromentally and efficient asian or european built car. Mind you if most americans lost 100 lbs they would save themselves 200 dollars a year in extra fuel costs

put it this way my electrolysis cell makes enough hho to run a 5 horse briggs and straton while getting its electricity from my car while running with the lights on. an experement. so the average car altinator requires 1.7 horse power to produce peek power. my cell is using about half of that 1.7hp to run completely a 5hp engine. it is my belief that the oil companies pay people to go on forums and make hho sound fruitless

Hi Paul,

You mean your 5hp B&S engine uses no gasoline in any way? You just pipe HHO?

OK for all of you that say “HHO” will not,can not and does not work… Then why don’t you try telling all of us that think it does work why it’s such a concern to you to waste so much time online in all of the forms saying it doesn’t… What are you getting out of all this time wasted. I made my own kit not online for big$$$$$$ 30 dollars that it and it works. So the bottom line is who’s paying you to say what you say.

I get better mileage than all of you without any of the gimmicks. I ride my bike. Not only is it better for the environment, I’m healthy.

I find this an interesting topic. Especially from hearing different perspectives on it, whether it can or can not work.

I am personally interested that it does, especially the car that runs on water only from manufacturers ‘Genepax’

If you chemicaly brake down water and burn it. It can never be water again.

Wait, the author has a PhD (presumably in chemistry) and is spouting this crap? Anyone with a basic knowledge of physics and chemistry should know that these HHO (or “Brown’s Gas”) kits are a COMPLETE SCAM. Simple conservation of energy tells you that you can’t create energy. The energy to split the water has to come from your car battery, and the energy for that comes from your alternator, and the energy for that comes from your engine, and the energy from that comes from GASOLINE. Due to conservation of energy you will at best get back exactly what you put in. In the real world (with those damned less than 100% efficiencies) you will get less energy from the Brown’s Gas than you spent in gasoline to make it. DECREASED FUEL EFFICIENCY.

Ohhh, I see now. People have been debunking the whole “hydrogen powers your car” myth, so now they’ve switched tactics to suggest that these scam kits work by encouraging leaner fuel burning. Well, actually, they’re right. HOWEVER, it’s not because of any effects from the gas or the the oxygen or whatever, it’s because these kits modify the oxygen sensor or the car’s computer. So yes, you will see the car burn leaner fuel. However, the car was not designed to do this. Over time you will damage your engine and it’s going to cost you a lot more to repair it than the few bucks you saved in gas.

You really want to save gas money? By a bus pass or a bike.